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 Wednesday, May 28, 2008
Gold at $700. Are you nuts?
Posted by Dave

Would it be a good thing for the coin hobby if gold dropped to $700 a troy ounce and stayed there for a few years?

A good case can be made that the rapid upward movement in the price of the precious metal has made gold coins unaffordable to a larger number of collectors. It is the disposable income of collectors that ultimately drives prices in the numismatic market.

Sure, trophy coins like 1913 Liberty Head nickels can stay in the stratosphere. Their prices don’t fall. A weakness in the market is usually manifested by the removal of these coins from the market as owners await better times.

However, coins with larger populations in both raw and slabbed states see more fluidity in pricing, but even with these, there is enough rigidity to create unsustainable situations.

Many readers have pointed out the disappearance of scarcity premiums on gold coins that used to have higher mark-ups when compared to the underlying value of the bullion than they do now. They are right. They have shrunk or disappeared.

Stability in gold’s price allows some differentiation to occur that simply does not exist when upward thrusts reduce many coins to bullion value.

For example, gold $20s have long had a narrower price differentiation based on mintages than Lincoln cents. It is logical. There are more collectors of Lincolns than double eagles. What collectors there are tend to focus on the very top end. Also, the base price of any double eagle is far higher than a base price for any Lincoln, so there is wider room to make price differentiations.

In the VF-20 column in the June Coin Market, the 1892 double eagle with a mintage of 4,523 is priced at $1,350, less than $400 more than the $963 price of an 1898-S, which has a mintage of 2,575,175. In calmer markets, the 1892 was around 2-2.5 times the price of the 1898-S.

Sure, in calmer markets we lose the excitement of rapidly moving bullion, but we collectors get to be more true to ourselves by making buying and selling judgments based on scarcity.



5/28/2008 9:04:46 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Tuesday, May 27, 2008
It's all about gold
Posted by Dave

How would you like to be in charge of pricing the First Spouse half-ounce gold coins? Here we are just two days prior to the opening of sales for the Louisa Adams coin and prices have not yet been revealed.

Perhaps they will show up later today. I will keep looking.

If the price is set too high, sales will stall even more so than they have for the Elizabeth Monroe coins, which hold the record in this young series for the slowest sales pace.

Only 3,910 uncirculated pieces have been sold and 6,666 proofs. Add them up and they total 10,576, which is hardly more than a quarter of the number that could be sold.

Prices of the Monroe coins are $619.95 for the proof and $599.95 for the uncirculated. That works out to a premium of about 35 percent for the proof and 31 percent for the uncirculated coin.

It is likely that the Louisa Adams prices will be in the same neighborhood if not identical to these unless bullion takes a dramatic leap higher or a fantastic spill lower in the next few hours.

The Dolley Madison coins can still be purchased for $529.95 for the proofs and $509.95 for the uncirculated. Even these relatively low mark-ups from the current price of bullion of 15 percent and 11 percent, respectively, have not sent sales soaring.

I almost wrote “set sales on fire” but that just didn’t seem quite right for the woman who was burned out of the White House in 1814.

It is a shame that the reputations of the First Ladies have been completely overshadowed by the price of gold. It is going to be a long and tedious 10 years.



5/27/2008 8:57:09 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [4]
 Friday, May 23, 2008
Have a good day
Posted by dave

I didn’t have to pay the new $15 first bag fee that American Airlines will be imposing soon. I feel lucky. However, this is just a temporary bit of good fortune.

I sympathize with the pain of high fuel prices. We all feel it every time we fuel up at a gas station.

However, the idea of trying to offset it with a bag charge seems to be like a restaurant charging extra for a knife and fork. It is something you don’t expect an additional charge for.

I do a lot of traveling, though not enough on American to avoid the domestic bag charge, and I imagine in future the overhead bins will be overfilled by people trying to avoid it.

Why don’t they just call it the “Saudi Arabia wishes you a good day charge?” That seems more logical.



5/23/2008 9:05:09 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [1]
 Thursday, May 22, 2008
In the air again
Posted by dave

By the time you read this I will either be in the air on the way to San Antonio, Texas, or already there.

The Harper clan is gathering for the wedding of a cousin of mine and those family members who are able will be in the heart of the city that is the historical home of the Alamo to witness the exchange of vows.

I have not been in San Antonio since the American Numismatic Association convention there in the spring of 1985. It was the heyday of Bob and Betty Medlar, both of whom have now passed on.

Courtney Coffing, a retired co-worker, reminded me when I saw him at the Numismatists of Wisconsin convention May 17 that he had lived there in 1961. It seems that an awful lot of people have a connection to the city.

Even though I have no plans to get numismatically involved, can I really spend three whole days without looking for a coin shop or otherwise dipping a toe in the numismatic waters?

We’ll see. Fortunately for me, I don’t have any formal role. I just have to look happy, which will be easy because I am not footing the bill for the festivities.



5/22/2008 9:05:39 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Different sizes coming?
Posted by Dave

 Yesterday’s ruling in favor of the blind by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia means changes could be coming to American paper money.

Because current notes are all the same size regardless of denomination, the court said the Treasury was violating the Rehabilitation Act.

The Treasury can appeal the decision to the Supreme Court. It may do so, but the collector in me begins to speculate about notes of different sizes or notes with Braille characters.

My mind says different sizes is the preferred option, perhaps as a result of my experiences with euro notes in Germany, but even that isn’t without its bumps. Euro countries don’t have a 1. They have a coin. Will this occur in the United States as a result of a court ruling?

Europeans don’t like the 5 because it is too small. It certainly is small, but I am more worried about notes being too big rather than too small.

Braille strikes me as too easily subverted either by fakers putting Braille for high denominations on low-denomination notes, or by crushing the raised areas.

Even if not deliberately crushed, how much wear can a note take before the Braille is not recognizable?

The gears in my mind are still turning. I am sure other collectors have other thoughts. We’ll see over time how this all plays out. Of course, it might not be too long before we’ll be spending gas ration coupons rather than paper money.



5/21/2008 9:00:16 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [8]
 Tuesday, May 20, 2008
Don't need to cry for Argentina
Posted by Dave

It is springtime in Iola. It is colder than normal, but it still is spring after a rough winter. Life always looks better as nature greens things up.

It may be springtime for the U.S. dollar, too. It had a rough winter. Like Rodney Dangerfield, it got no respect, but now perhaps things are changing and the world may be returning to the traditional verities.

I read yesterday that middle class people in Argentina are rushing to convert their pesos into – you guessed it – U.S. dollars. They fear the wheels are about to fall off their country’s economy.

After a year and a half, Costa Rica’s colon is depreciating against the U.S. dollar. Officially measured inflation is running at more than 10 percent a year. The U.S. rate is consistently lower. Basic economics says the colon must fall and in the last couple of weeks, it has.

Even the mighty euro is wobbling a bit. It was reported that the euro area’s monthly trade balance has swung into deficit. That by itself doesn’t mean much, but it does mean there is a net European demand for imported goods, which is a good thing for countries outside its borders that worry about an economic slowdown.

What does it mean for collectors? Well, too much stock shouldn’t be placed in short-term currency fluctuations, but for gold buyers whose sole argument for buying is U.S. dollar weakness might need to find something else to hang their hats on.

Far better to buy collector coins, the demand for which is long-term and whose prices tend to rise with American incomes and inflation. Collectors get the gold and silver content as a kicker. Buying collector coins means you don’t really have to worry about the dollar or how the people of Argentina view it. You will have more fun, too.



5/20/2008 9:10:27 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Monday, May 19, 2008
Collectors find a haven
Posted by Dave

The Numismatists of Wisconsin show in Iola, Wis., is over. As shows go, it is not at the top of the standings, but shows like this are what make numismatics tick.

It is a bread and butter show of a kind that sends you away thinking things are going to be just fine. I saw a couple looking at multiple examples of a 1914-D Lincoln cent to find just the right one.

I saw several elderly women each with a handful of silver coins selling them off to dealers at current prices. They seemed pleased to be able to do so.

I saw George Cuhaj and Howard Quimby and 10 Boy Scouts head for their merit badge clinic.

I saw American Numismatic Association vice president Patti Finner conducting a treasure hunt for young collectors as well as conducting state quarter quizzes.

I saw an 8-year-old boy and his 6-year-old sister sorting through every single coin in a friendly dealer’s junk box. They were supervised by their mother.

Chet Krause, the founder of Numismatic News, was there to reminisce about 48 years of NOW from his perspective of someone who has collected for roughly seven decades.

It was the type of show that fills the weekends of collectors across the country. It was grass roots.

 It wasn’t ostentatious. It was collectors being themselves.

Perhaps the best comment was from Jerry Koepp of Coins, Stamps ’n’ Stuff, Des Moines, Iowa.

“It’s surprising they can bring so many people into this little town.”

That’s a tribute to the organizational skills of Joel Edler as bourse chairman and ANA governor Cliff Mishler, who should be called the social director.

Am I prejudiced? Of course. I am always prejudiced in favor of collectors. Collectors go where they are wanted and where they feel at home.

This past weekend that home was Iola, Wis.



5/19/2008 8:59:58 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Friday, May 16, 2008
Knocked off sale
Posted by Dave

They just went on sale May 5, but already the frisky price of platinum has forced the Mint to suspend sales of the four-coin 2008 platinum proof Eagle set. The set contains 1.85 troy ounces of the precious metal. At today's closing price for platinum of $2,132 an ounce, the four-coin set contains $3,944.20 in precious metal.

Individual proof platinum coins are still available from the Mint.

Gold narrowly missed the $900 mark and closed the week's trading at $899. Silver closed at $16.904.

Does this mean the downward correction in precious metals prices is over?



5/16/2008 5:08:42 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [0]
Show comes to me
Posted by Dave

Tables are turned for me today. Usually I have to leave Iola, Wis., to attend a coin show. This time, the show is coming to me.

Numismatists of Wisconsin gather just a few yards from the Krause building here for their annual convention.

There are 55 dealer tables, so it is a fairly cozy show, which gives me the opportunity to have some nice conversations with show attendees.

I will not be rushing off to cover a board meeting or perform some other must-do task. I simply can be a part of the show and watch the public come in at 1 o’clock this afternoon.

In addition to not traveling, show hours at 1 p.m. to 6 p.m. today and 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. tomorrow recognize the habits of the area. We will not see an empty bourse floor Sunday morning while many people are in church. There simply will be no Sunday hours.

This pattern is not something that I am making up, either, nor is it something unique to coin shows. We have an annual Old Car Show in Iola that attracts 140,000 people over the course of four days. This year the dates are July 10-13.

I have been a volunteer worker at the car shows for the Lions Club and before that the Jaycees since 1978.

In recent years, the migration away from Sunday hours is very clear. It is so clear that no admission fee is charged on Sunday to encourage a few extra people to visit and to prevent any sense that those who do visit are not getting their money’s worth.

The heart of the car show is now Thursday through Saturday, which is very much like a coin show.

If you can make it, come to Iola for the coin show and the car show. Admission to the coin show is free.



5/16/2008 9:02:23 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [1]
 Thursday, May 15, 2008
Opportunity knocks at auction
Posted by Dave

Are there any rare coins left in collections?

Seems like a silly question, but I was paging through auction catalogs for the sales that will be held in the last week of May both before and during the Long Beach show.

Wow. It is amazing what is going on the block.

Collectors at certain levels of achievement find that it is very difficult to carrry on to a logical conclusion because certain rarities come into the market only infrequently. That can stymie many a hobbyist with large sums at his disposal. This is their time. Act now. It is a limited opportunity.

The present market environment seems to be at that rare point in time when generational shifts, profit-takers and routine business factors all seem to be working in favor of bringing coins to market.

The generational shift means none of us is getting younger and sooner or later prudent financial planning means selling off beloved coins. That certainly seems to be the case with the April sale of the David Queller Collection. It was apparent how emotionally bound up he was in his coins. He is not alone. We all feel it, but we all aren’t going to have an auction catalog with our name on it.

Profit-takers who bought coins a few years ago, even six months, ago might decide now is the time to take money off the table in view of the uncertainties in the economy and in the rest of the world.

For regular dealers it has been conventional wisdom since the present market got truly hot that the absolute best way to get the highest possible price for quality coins and bank notes is to consign them to a public auction.

How long this happy confluence of factors will remain is anyone’s guess, but boy oh boy do I enjoy seeing what is coming up for sale.



5/15/2008 9:01:47 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Wednesday, May 14, 2008
Treasures make the news
Posted by Dave

Treasures seem to be making a lot of news these days. It is not just one but three that have come to my attention in the last several days.

The dispute between the Spanish government and Odyssey Marine Exploration goes on over what is claimed to be $500 million in Spanish silver coins taken from what Spain says is the wreck of a naval vessal, the Nuestra Senora de las Mercedes, sunk in the Atlantic Ocean in 1804.

Hobbyists may be cheering for one side or the other, but the fact is that sooner or later the coins will enter the market.

The legal dispute could stretch on for years in the Florida court handling the matter, though if the coins are indeed from a warship, then Spain would seem to have a very strong case under admiralty law.

A recovery team that planned ahead and got legal title to a wreck in the Gulf of Mexico 60 miles off the Louisiana coast has yielded U.S. gold coins struck at the Southern mints and a nearly complete set of Capped Bust half dollars.

This treasure is smaller. It is valued at $1 million, but U.S. collectors who collect Dahlonega, Charlotte and New Orleans gold will be interested to see the census of the coins recovered even if they don’t want to buy them when they become available.

The wreck is of a sidewheel steamer called  the SS New York that sank in 1846.

And a subcontractor of the Mel Fisher Center in Florida claims to have found some jewelry from the treasure fleet of 1715 that sank in a hurricane. Not numismatic, but interesting and it puts a name back in the spotlight that has been coming in and out of numismatics for decades, though Mel himself is no longer living.

Stay tuned. Treasure always seems to attract buyers who are willing to pay too much.



5/14/2008 9:05:21 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Tuesday, May 13, 2008
Variety is the spice of collecting
Posted by Dave

Tuesdays are generally busy days for me but the second Tuesday of the month tends to be the worst.

"Paper Money Market" price guide goes to press this afternoon. The "Coin Market" price guide and Numismatic News have their ad deadlines this afternoon. Today is also the final full day of work before World Coin News goes to press tomorrow and Bank Note Reporter has its ad deadline.

It keeps me jumping from topic to topic and task to task as everything gets finalized. It is all very engrossing work, but the necessity of interrupting one task to complete another as the multiple deadlines near keeps me hopping.

And naturally, events don’t stop happening. There is the need to check things out. I see gold is down $11 this morning and the Mint puts more Presidential dollar coin products on the market.

Numismatics is a fascinating field. To look at it from the perspective of a collector of U.S. coins or a collector of U.S. paper money or world notes or world coins, there is no better day for me to see the variety than today.

It reinforces my perception that the hobby is a lifetime undertaking. No matter what area you pick, it will be a good one. It will challenge you to learn and improve yourself.

All the while it also serves as a vehicle for blowing off steam and forgetting routine cares.

And there is nobody scolding you, except me perhaps, that you haven’t taken your coin time today.

Don’t forget. It is good for you.



5/13/2008 9:03:01 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #  Comments [0]